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Post by Yves Eau on Sept 4, 2019 8:04:56 GMT
The rules are unfair on characters with MA5. BR2 gives MA1-4 +1 and MA6+ +0.5, but MA5 gains nothing. Situation | MA | MA less than
(7-BR) | +1 | MA 6+ and
BR=1 | +1 | MA 6+ and
BR=2 | +0.5 | BR=6 (Regt
and higher) | -1 |
Should the third situation apply to MA5+, or should MA5 gain 1? |
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Post by Yves Eau on Sept 4, 2019 8:29:37 GMT
I feel these modifiers make it far too easy for an incompetent commander to gain MA in the crucible of war.
At MA1, an unmodified battle roll gives a 67% chance of improvement, even in defeat; one need only avoid complete disaster.
At MA2, the chance is 50%.
At MA3, still 50%.
At MA4, only 17%.
At MA5, impossible.
At MA6, 17% for +0.5 and 17% for +1.
If you figure in the effect of skilled superior officers and, for regimental commanders, adjutant, it is way too easy for low MA.
Go to the Academy, you dullards, before you take to the field.
By this token, should a duellist gain EXP merely by avoiding death?
I do not see anything which gives a weakling easy opportunities to gain STR or CON faster than his beefier rivals.
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Post by gaston on Sept 4, 2019 9:21:00 GMT
Artists, Doctors etc of skill level 5 were in the same boat until the 'or 2' was added here
"17.23 Whenever an RXA check is made, if the SCR (Skill Check Result, from the table) is 1 or 2, the character gains .25 to his RxA."
Wouldn't the best way of removing the MA5 log jam where soldiers are concerned be to change the second 'if MA is 6 or more' to 'if MA is 5 or more' in rule 19.5, as follows
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(Proposed Change)
19.5 If commanding a battalion or higher level unit, current MA and the actual battle result (BR, from 1-6, 1 being the best) determine whether MA is changed at all as follows. If (7-BR) is greater than current MA, then MA is increased by one. If MA is 6 or more and BR is 1 then MA is increased by one; if MA is 5 or more and BR is 2 then MA is increased by half a point. If commanding a regt or higher level unit, a BR of 6 leads to one point loss of MA due to a blow in confidence
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Post by Yves Eau on Sept 4, 2019 9:55:33 GMT
MA5 would still have less chance of progression than MA6, as he cannot achieve BR1 without assistance from superiors. I would suggest giving +0.5 for BR2 to MA5 only, MA6-7 +0.5 for BR1 only, and MA8+ +0.25 for BR1. By my calculations, this would give us: MA1 67% chance for +1 MA2 50% for +1 MA3 50% for +1 MA4 17% for +1 MA5-7 17% for +0.5 MA8-9 33% for +0.25 MA10+ 50% for +0.25 A couple of things to bear in mind: - a bumbling regimental (or higher) commander is far more likely to benefit from an adjutant
- an idiot is less likely to gain loot, and generally (with a few exceptions) more likely to die - perhaps this sufficient price to pay for the potential MA gain
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Post by Ymbert Montgomery on Sept 9, 2019 17:39:51 GMT
This does seem a bit unbalanced and worth changing. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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Post by Alain Andre Durant on Sept 15, 2019 22:53:48 GMT
The rules are unfair on characters with MA5. BR2 gives MA1-4 +1 and MA6+ +0.5, but MA5 gains nothing. Situation | MA | MA less than
(7-BR) | +1 | MA 6+ and
BR=1 | +1 | MA 6+ and
BR=2 | +0.5 | BR=6 (Regt
and higher) | -1 |
Should the third situation apply to MA5+, or should MA5 gain 1? To encourage people to go to school. All of the skill results are based on the same table. |
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Post by Yves Eau on Sept 20, 2019 7:57:15 GMT
The rules are unfair on characters with MA5. To encourage people to go to school. All of the skill results are based on the same table. I don't understand your point. At MA5, why would I go to school? I use my abilities in service of His Majesty, at the front, with real men. And my reward is … nothing. Unless I benefit from good battle results by my superiors, to raise my MA temporarily so I stand a chance of a BR1 myself. |
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Post by huillaume on Sept 20, 2019 10:47:34 GMT
The rules are unfair on characters with MA5. To encourage people to go to school. All of the skill results are based on the same table.
The MIlitary Academy increases are limited to MA 3, so character with MA 5 would not benefit from it.
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Post by Alain Andre Durant on Sept 22, 2019 12:47:01 GMT
To encourage people to go to school. All of the skill results are based on the same table. I don't understand your point. At MA5, why would I go to school? I use my abilities in service of His Majesty, at the front, with real men. And my reward is … nothing. Unless I benefit from good battle results by my superiors, to raise my MA temporarily so I stand a chance of a BR1 myself. Yes, exactly. |
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Post by huillaume on Nov 9, 2019 16:42:05 GMT
Just another related question:
Can aides/adjoutants improve their MA by experience if the General they serve with achieves a good BR?
I'd find it logical for Adjoutants, more so if they really improved the General MA, as they contribute to it. As for aides, while they are not really helping to achieve the BR, it would be a good way to gain experience for low MA officers without butchering the troops...
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Post by Ymbert Montgomery on Nov 9, 2019 18:27:25 GMT
At the moment, no. Do people think it would be a good idea?
On a related note I'm thinking of raising the cap in Military Academy to 5 to match with the other skills. What do people think?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2019 18:31:19 GMT
I think raising the Military Academy cap is a good idea.
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Post by huillaume on Nov 9, 2019 20:06:44 GMT
At the moment, no. Do people think it would be a good idea? Of course I think it is, at leat for adjoutants. For Aides, maybe at a reduced pace (e.g. gaining only 0.25 instead of 0.5, or needing a better result (result+BR<6 intead of 7), as he participates less in command... On a related note I'm thinking of raising the cap in Military Academy to 5 to match with the other skills. What do people think? I fully agree. |
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Post by gaston on Nov 9, 2019 20:49:43 GMT
I think raising the Military Academy cap is a good idea. Ditto |
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Post by Ymbert Montgomery on Nov 9, 2019 21:33:46 GMT
Cool, that seems to be a consensus so it can be considered live from the August turn.
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