Character fiction and rumours

[Ymbert Montgomery]

Would people like me to separate these out by putting the latter in its own forum or is that not necessary?

Same rules apply; unless it's been submitted to the GM as a turn action or otherwise agreed it doesn't have a mechanical effect.

I'm not getting involved in disputes about whether something is known IC or OOC.

[Yves Eau]

How would this be different to having separate threads in the one forum?

[Ymbert Montgomery]

It wouldn't be, apart from at the moment the monthly threads seem to be a mix of both.

[gaston]

Apr 29, 2020 21:44:35 GMT Ymbert Montgomery said:

Would people like me to separate these out by putting the latter in its own forum or is that not necessary?

Same rules apply; unless it's been submitted to the GM as a turn action or otherwise agreed it doesn't have a mechanical effect.

I'm not getting involved in disputes about whether something is known IC or OOC.

If by fiction you mean the recent Penny Dreadful in the Rumour Mill, I think the RM can comfortably handle both.  

While we're on the subject, although it's never been formalised, I've always worked on the basis that

Rumour Mill Pieces submitted by 'guests' are unverifiable and unattributable (and hence deniable)

Rumour Mill Pieces submitted from Player Accounts are a means of letting other players know what is happening to the writer's character, but not other characters.  A very good excuse will be needed for other characters learning such information. 

Posts in the Gentlemanly Communications and Character Background forums are generally known. 

[Ymbert Montgomery]

As I'm going through this on the way to an updated rulebook, this is worth clarifying.

Apr 30, 2020 7:49:33 GMT gaston said:

Rumour Mill Pieces submitted by 'guests' are unverifiable and unattributable (and hence deniable)

That's the case and indeed is so even with attributed posts. Outside of the specific exceptions in the Skullduggery rules, no action will be taken on guest posts and no duel cause is given.

If someone says in the rumour mill that Monsigneur de la Bassee is embezzeling from the Church they won't have slander charges brought and there won't be an investigation.

Rumour Mill Pieces submitted from Player Accounts are a means of letting other players know what is happening to the writer's character, but not other characters.  A very good excuse will be needed for other characters learning such information. 

Posts in the Gentlemanly Communications and Character Background forums are generally known. 

That isn't the case. As per rule 1.8 (and some version of this rule has been in right from the start), if a player chooses to know that information IC that's justification enough.

All posts in "Welcome to Liminal Dreams En Garde!" are out of character. That's pretty much common sense. If someone asks how the spying rules work don't assume they're a spy!

Everything else is in character knowledge and can be known by any player who wishes to.

That particular rule is non negotiable because it's there to protect me from having to take sides in IC/OOC disputes.

That said, it's purely theoretical at the moment and hopefully will remain so. It hasn't arisen a single time in the entire time we've been playing; players generally seem to be able to sort out this issue among themselves. So it's probably an "insurance policy" that will never actually matter.

[gaston]

That isn't the case. As per rule 1.8 (and some version of this rule has been in right from the start), if a player chooses to know that information IC that's justification enough.

Mmm...that does seem to clash somewhat with the Rumour Mill forum description :

For unsubstantiated rumours and tittle tattle

No biggie - it just means that sensitive / incriminatory press will always need to be submitted as a guest in the future.

That said, it's purely theoretical at the moment and hopefully will remain so. It hasn't arisen a single time in the entire time we've been playing; players generally seem to be able to sort out this issue among themselves. So it's probably an "insurance policy" that will never actually matter.

TBH, it isn't an issue which has ever arisen in any EG! game I've ever been in.

[Valerie Valanon]

How about a clarification by the author of the piece of information given in any post, if it is IC or OOC knowledge? Or, more easily to handle: If there isn´t explicably written "OOC knowledge", the information contained in a post is IC knowledge. So everyone is responsible for their own posts and noone has to venture a guess.

[Ymbert Montgomery]

May 17, 2020 11:16:24 GMT Valerie Valanon said:

How about a clarification by the author of the piece of information given in any post, if it is IC or OOC knowledge? Or, more easily to handle: If there isn´t explicably written "OOC knowledge", the information contained in a post is IC knowledge. So everyone is responsible for their own posts and noone has to venture a guess.

That's pretty much the case already, but without the need for a tag. Anything in the "Welcome to En Garde!" set of forums is OOC, everything else is IC. The rumours forum is the only one that's a bit complex, because of the obvious unsubstantiated nature of it. But as Gaston says, the easiest way round that is for people to remember to post as guests when it's not something they want associating with.