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Post by Ymbert Montgomery on Nov 29, 2019 23:08:51 GMT
No major changes here. Mostly just clarifications and tidying up. Court Rules.pdf (93.63 KB) |
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Post by gaston on Nov 30, 2019 8:47:06 GMT
A few observations:
This doesn't actually give three months notice. I suggest a change to
"The Court Calendar, detailing where Court will be held, will be compiled three months in advance "
as stated under Court Location section.
Should be changed to
"Any attendee may bring their consort."
This was tried in Du Pont and resulted in an insane merry-go-round with mistresses only remaining as Ladies-in-waiting for a month or two before being replaced - whilst all male appointments last for a year, of course. Far better to have notice confer eligibility to apply for Court Appointments, which are then handled like any other appointment.
Also, with husbands eventually pushing their NPC wives into these appointments, the eight appointments listed are woefully inadequate. You did say that you were intending to adopt Ladies-in-waiting /a maid of honour for the Crown Princess too? In fact, this whole section directly contradicts the Court section of the existing Female PC rules...
Finally, in the Court Location section it's not clear that the events tabled are weekly events (though many are clearly weekly events according to their subsequent descriptions).
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Post by huillaume on Nov 30, 2019 11:37:02 GMT
See that if you keep with Guard rules as they are now in the Military Rules, at least the King's Equerry must be defined (incuding what influence level is needed to influence him, something I didn't find in SK rules).
Alternatively, The permission to volunteer a Guards Company could be given by the MIlitary Governor of Paris (who, after all, appoints the Commandant of the Guards), while the CG would keep needing the Archbishop of Paris permission...
That's what Irefered when I said any such rules changes could produce domino effect (though not being against it, just warning you must be careful in this sense)...
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Post by gaston on Nov 30, 2019 12:04:44 GMT
Alternatively, The permission to volunteer a Guards Company could be given by the MIlitary Governor of Paris (who, after all, appoints the Commandant of the Guards), while the CG would keep needing the Archbishop of Paris permission... The timeframe for the Sun King was the reign of Louis XIV, long after Cardinal Richelieu was dead. Surely in Liminal it should be the Cardinal who calls the shots regards the Cardinal's Guard? |
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Post by huillaume on Nov 30, 2019 12:14:00 GMT
Alternatively, The permission to volunteer a Guards Company could be given by the MIlitary Governor of Paris (who, after all, appoints the Commandant of the Guards), while the CG would keep needing the Archbishop of Paris permission... The timeframe for the Sun King was the reign of Louis XIV, long after Cardinal Richelieu was dead. Surely in Liminal it should be the Cardinal who calls the shots regards the Cardinal's Guard? Well, Richelieu was dead, but Mazzarino took his place, so situation changed little in this sense... |
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Post by gaston on Nov 30, 2019 12:35:56 GMT
Yes, but in 1630 Richelieu is alive and kicking - and it's he who founded his Cardinal's Guard. Why on earth would he cede control of it to the Archbishop of Paris??? Also, I assume that the new Guards rules mean that the King's and Cardinal's Escorts (and their appointments) are no more ? |
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Post by Ymbert Montgomery on Nov 30, 2019 14:01:15 GMT
[ This was tried in Du Pont and resulted in an insane merry-go-round with mistresses only remaining as Ladies-in-waiting for a month or two before being replaced - whilst all male appointments last for a year, of course. Far better to have notice confer eligibility to apply for Court Appointments, which are then handled like any other appointment. Also, with husbands eventually pushing their NPC wives into these appointments, the eight appointments listed are woefully inadequate. You did say that you were intending to adopt Ladies-in-waiting /a maid of honour for the Crown Princess too? In fact, this whole section directly contradicts the Court section of the existing Female PC rules... Ah, yeah, that's an inconsistencey adopted from the previous version. I think you're right that standard appointment is the way to go. (I am going to look at a way of keeping the "the King steals your mistress" bit though because I quite like that!) One question on that: Does that mean that they're only eligible to apply for the appointment granted by the Royal who spots them? That would obviously make more sense, but is quite restrictive compared to male appointments. See that if you keep with Guard rules as they are now in the Military Rules, at least the King's Equerry must be defined (incuding what influence level is needed to influence him, something I didn't find in SK rules). Alternatively, The permission to volunteer a Guards Company could be given by the MIlitary Governor of Paris (who, after all, appoints the Commandant of the Guards), while the CG would keep needing the Archbishop of Paris permission... That's what Irefered when I said any such rules changes could produce domino effect (though not being against it, just warning you must be careful in this sense)... Don't worry, I'm aware that the appointment rules need updating to go with the Court/Guard rules. |
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Post by huillaume on Nov 30, 2019 14:49:32 GMT
Yes, but in 1630 Richelieu is alive and kicking - and it's he who founded his Cardinal's Guard. Why on earth would he cede control of it to the Archbishop of Paris??? In fact, I'm not sure the Cardinal Guard survived Richelieu, and I guess historically it would be closer to the guard companies a Duke can raise than any other thing, but the game (and Dumas' literature) would not be the same without them... And just to be clear, I pointed the Archbishop of Paris because that's what rules say. I would be OK with needing the Cardinal permission too, though this would raise the influence needed to 8, while with rules as they are "only" 6 is needed... |
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Post by Ymbert Montgomery on Nov 30, 2019 15:31:50 GMT
I think the Archbishop of Paris would be better for balance reasons. Needing an 8 feels unfair.
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